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great article.  it asks that age old question, “do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?”

I was reaching more for “can you be both?”—maybe I should edit some more.

Or, just to one-up again..

“Sure, you’re right, but who are you trying to convince?”

If enough truth is exposed and enough people are awake then the eventual outcome could be an overthrown government. And if everyone is truly awake, it stands to certain reason that there could very well be a positive outcome.

Either way this article is very good. And i think you are asking the right questions.

Nice work hombré.

walk well.
Garrett from Wishtank

Regardless of my personal thoughts vis-a-vis the “Truth” movement, I think you’ve done a major public service for those lost in the internal clouds of delusion that make them think that they are EVER going to “get to the bottom of everything and hold people accountable, man!” by drilling down to the core reality at play here. 

You make the most fundamental of points, and it’s one that just about everyone who’s still living with the cultural residue of the sixties swirling around their internal drains would do well to heed: real, lasting change occurs from the INSIDE, if it occurs at all.

At the risk of sounding like too much of a cynic for my own good, let me say that the naivete of some people never ceases to amaze me.

Cheers, bro.

Goddamn good article, shit needed to be said.

9/11 Truth are a bunch of sheep who constantly miss the point.
The fact that 9/11 happened at all is way more important than the who/what/when/where.

We pay for a service, that service is peace and order.
If the people we are employing and giving power to are not providing the service we hired them for, it’s time to kick them the fuck out.

If you’re paying a dude for a service and he starts blaming all his peers for his fuck ups do you sit around trying to prove to him that he’s lying?
Nah you tell him his service is no longer needed.

And in the scheme of things 9/11 isn’t the straw that broke the camel’s back, it’s just another item on the long list of atrocities the American federal government (and western establishment in general) are responsible for.
And wether or not they are the culprets or were asleep on the job they ARE responsible for it.
If you’re at work and your baby gets hit by a car while in the care of the babysitter, who do you blame?
Do you give him/her another chance?

Pretty common sense here.

I feel like a dick for using Hopsicker as an example of actual Truth with poor marketing, he’s really been on fire lately.  His new article about Jerry Falwell is fuckin’ outstanding and worth checking out.

I have since a few years ago lost dedication/hope to this “movement” for many of the reasons outlined in this article.  I once considered 9/11 the best means through which to engage others in overhauling the system and bringing about this dubious justice (implied above) so many Truthers are seeking and have sought in prior cases.  As stated, it will -never- happen.  So instead, rather than just giving up and saying “LoL that sucks”, I took some time to re-assess what exactly had happened...was it a failure?  How much time/energy had I wasted dwelling on one isolated event?  How did I have convince myself through the whole process that it was worth it?  How can I avoid such futile endeavors in the future?  It helped me a great deal on learning how foolishly easy it is for one to become entranced with a righteous idea--even ones that appear internationally/globally justifying.  In an instant message about this 37 lamented one of his favorite equations: ms = md.  Monkey See = Monkey Do.  Do not follow yourself blindly, and be sure to criticize even your seemingly infallible activisms regularly.

All right. Fair points except for one thing.

This movement is not a one trick pony. The notion of false flag has been burned into the memesphere forever. Even the Hasselbecks in this world concede this point. That false flags do happen frequently.

This movement is also forcing the anti-movement to keep catching up.

This movement has also exposed NAU, Amnesty, Amero, Global taxation, Globalism (the religion) as opposed to Globalization (the process), Murdoch Bono Hillary and other ambipartisan hacks lounging together.

This movement is defending a decent candidate who is rocking the boat repeatedly. The scum just today failed to knock him out of future appearances.

This movement is actually winning.

The problem is that people aren’t noticing the revolution (info-revolt) already busting through the walls of media. Mixed blessing there.

So please keep up the pressure.

The revolution will not even be felt. The ground will simply fall out from under these scum.
They want a riot. We will give them a transformation.
They want an uprising. We will surround them with a smile and ask by the millions, “May I have a moment of your time?”
They want primal outrage. We will pour truth into every cup they buy at Starbucks.

They want animals on the loose. We will give them thousands of citizen statesmen.

This is an infowar. We shall control the language. We shall deflect the spin.

We are not the vigilantes they want to portray us as. We are responsible citizens.

Wow, JS.  I think I love your take on this, friend.  The intentionally misleading tone of my comment (a.k.a. “a veiled wake-up call to arms") here notwithstanding, I concur and think that this is the most authentic way to do things.  My own efforts for the cause are by design subtle, but calculated to be immensely powerful if heard by the right ears, and versions of this approach have proven effective in the past - for good and evil - so I’m gonna stick with it.

Cheers to you.

Was that it?  It seems to me this article is mostly directed at the portion of people in the truth movement who really are only there because of their distrust in authority.  Many of us share these same sentiments, but the question has remained for years now: How?  I mean, if we continue to let this country continue to shape the world in the way it has so far, the countries where there are starving people will continue to be neglected and die off, shrugged off, or shaved off rather, from the rest of the world as though they were a large scab.  It’s pretty much already happened.  You can see this by playing with the Google Gapminder.  Just type it into google and play with it.  You’ll see what I mean.

Okay, so what is he suggesting we do?

I don’t see anything in the article that really points to anything in particular.  I see a very well-conveyed feeling of frustration that, much to his dismay, is actually very common among people in the truth movement.

So the truth movement has failed he says.

In my opinion, the only reason the truth movement has failed SO FAR, is because it hasn’t wholly dealt in truth.  The level of confusion about many of the issues is so high because of so much conflicting information from so many sources, and trying to fit it into one big picture is a lot for a person to fathom.  They see one thing on the news, and then they feel that it might be credible.  They see one thing on infowars.com, and then they feel that it may be overly biased.  How do we know?

I think the future for the truth movement should be a renewed focus on the truth.  A very skeptical friend of mine pointed this out to me while I was showing him one of Alex Jones’ films awhile back.

How do I know any of this information is more credible than what I see on TV?  Where’s the reference?

I would then tell him the source cited in the film.  He would then ask whether that source was credible.  I would proceed to go off on some long-ass chain of references and citing of information--before I knew it I felt like an ass.

If the truth movement would focus on one smaller issue at a time as a collective, I believe the awareness-spreading would be more effective.  The sources of information would run deeper and more believable.  Better organization is needed still.  There has not been enough time or motivation to accomplish this.

Now: Motivation.  The REAL problem.  This article is mostly detrimental in this area, as it basically tells us we’re wasting our time without telling us what we should REALLY be doing, but it is also kind-of beneficial in this area as well if you look at it right.  It’s almost as if the article was written to stir up those little feelings within us that tell us to try harder.  He mentions the use of advertisement to sway people.  There’s nothing wrong with advertisement if it has good intentions, and touts truth.

So perhaps instead of pointing our finger at the government and particular industries, we should be pointing the finger at ourselves and giving ourselves incentive to fix this problem.  So, what’s the incentive?  This is a hole that desperately needs to be filled.  EVERYBODY knows there’s hidden agendas.  EVERYBODY knows the truth is not what you get on TV.  BARELY ANYBODY knows a good reason why we should try so hard together to change things.  There’s a secret little part of many of us that sees a lot of good and beneficial things in living in one of the most powerful countries of the world, and shaping it to match our lifestyles--to hell with how it affects anybody else.

K, so, then I’m talking about focusing on issues that affect us directly, instead of those abroad.  Why wouldn’t we?  It can’t be denied that the majority of our population is so fat an happy with ourselves that the outside world seems to be a construct or a show to be watched on TV.  We all think the good-guy wins in the end--well, that’s what always happens, right?  WRONG.

K, so, continuing on this tangent gets kind-of complicated, as I am sure the reader already knows.  I guess my point is this:  losing focus and accepting defeat is the worst possible thing that can be done.  The fact that this article seems to resonate with you is beside the point.  The truth stands, if you hold on to it.  It’s a long-term thingie.

Just because an opinion you feel to be truthful in some way seems to have weight, does not mean it is a good one. This article is completely contradictory!  Duh!

The truth movement started in a very dismal place, focusing on many different random issues; some very questionable, and some not.  It has evolved over time, if you haven’t noticed.  If it weren’t for the truth movement, the whole of the population would no longer have an inkling that there was any reason to resist against the loss of our rights or to question the motives of the european union and the north-american union.  If they don’t talk about it anymore, it fades away.

What’s needed is not to tell people they’re wasting their time, but to again make people more aware of your opinion, your sources of information, and let them make their decisions on their own.  If you work together to make changes, then you just may actually make a difference. Those with the most desireable effects are the ones that make the difference.  MAKE IT DESIREABLE, BUT KEEP IT TRUTHFUL.

If you’re the type of person who likes to fix things, then you know that if there’s a will, there’s a way.

Don’t go around saying “I wish I could fix it, but, oh well. I don’t see it right now. I’m gonna work on something else.”

Just keep working on it.  We’ll get it if we keep trying.  That’s the only way.

You wanna end up with another half-ass job?

There’s always been a better way to unite the world than the way they’re doing it now.  It’s never too late.

Let’s get together.  E-mail me if you’re in the Denver area.  We’ll actually talk about things that help us get shit done, rather than mope around.

i guess another good thing to think about is: which is easier?  Overthrowing our whole government and rebuilding it, or upholding the limits set by it in the first place to prevent it from becoming corrupt and creating new ones?  if we could figure out a way to make our voting system more reliable so the people were actually the ones making the decisions, based upon unbiased information, we wouldn’t have to overthrow and basically put this country into a civil war between the people and the state.  I know, it’s a toughie.  I think it needs to be talked about more, though.  there may be good options either way.  it’s a shitty situation, but do we have a choice not to deal with it? we do but not for long

The dynamic is interesting:  the core psychology at play behind the scenes with many people is suffering. Suffering being defined as “over-attention to things you have little to no control over” (paraphrasing Brian Tracy)… and the past being that which we have no control over.

Though i would agree that clarifying events and ideas from the past as historians can do is actually worthwhile… to a point.  Will this movement be able to recognize when they are suffering or past being worthwhile?

Unceasing Propaganda

The barrage of propaganda about “the day that changed everything” is very usa-centric, evocative of Pearl Harbour, and, of course, neatly minimizes whatever else is going on around the world unless it serves the current or evolving agenda..

World tragedies are mostly ignored; tragedies occurring in America are also ignored such as deaths or disabilities due to lack of medical coverage, car crashes, guns & other weapons, pollution, un-necessary criminalization as for many drugs, corporatization, etc… Evolving crises due to DU, GMO or an incipient police state are ridiculed and marginalized..

However, is it really only a choice between a serious revolution and overthrow and a demand for the truth and an accounting? Is the corruption so complete and unassailable as to be immune from any stinging, yet peaceful, criticisms and concerted actions, political and otherwise? We should remember that it seemed that way, hopeless, at many points in history; many far bleaker than what we currently face.

911-truth shouldn’t be depicted as paramount in any way (although 911-Untruth is) yet, nonetheless, it can serve as a catalyst for the un-ravelling and un-doing of the “apparatus” of brain-washing and control that has fallen over many lands..

911-Truth will, is, morphing into a broad, multi-front awakening and assault on the machinery of secrecy and deception and oppression.. if it can maintain its momentum and focus, it can succeed.

Your concept is correct.  We are beyond band-aids, reform, or any such nonsense.  You cannot un-rot something that is rotten now to the core, all you can do is throw it away and plant the seed of a new beginning.  It will take time, it is fraught with it’s own perils, and comes with no guarantee.

However, maintaining a false hope that the status-quo (even one with some measure of modification and improvement) which has brought us to this dead end is capable of producing an amenable path forward, does guarantee the perpetuation of this fraud, the stakes of which have grown so grave and perilous as to no longer sanely be contemplated or tolerated.  This Game we call the US Federal Government is rigged, and all the players (not us, mind you, We the People are simply spectators reduced to reacting to the choices made by the players) are “in the know” on the scam, the knowledge of which is the source of their power and profits.  The only way forward is to reject it outright as the lie it ever proves itself to be, stop wasting energy operating within the constraints set by those who manipulate and enslave us.  To truly make a clean break, and to have the courage and the fortitude to firmly take the reigns and drive this horse to the destination we seek, without looking back or fearing the consequences of overturning this rotten applecart.  We have had well enough of talk, to secure a righteous future demands nothing less than action.

Love, Live Free, and Fight like Devils until we triumph, or die trying.  Anything else, cowardly pretense and slavery.

I wrote a commentary that is basically the same thing, but this is much more elegant and serious,while mine was more for laughs, but with a point. Not many people seem to realize the hold the very mention of that day has on people, either pro-war or pro-conspiracy. it just polarizes people into not thinking about anything logically and since then a lot of fucked up stuff has happened in its name. It is time to forget and move on. I mean, a few thousand died horribly, and that is awful. But on that same day, how many people died of AIDS or cancer?

Thanks to everyone for such eloquent and thoughtful replies, I’ve gotten a lot more food for thought than I gave y’all, I think.  I appreciate that very much.

“It embraces all and purifies everything.”

Everything evil has a positive intent. In knowing this we realize how to set everyone free, from not only those who oppress them, but from oppressing themselves as well.

Thank you for posting the things that you do, as you do.

^^And thank YOU for the bio-war, psy-war chart, I’ll be digesting that for at least a month.

I guess most of you know much of this anyways, but I wrote it just for the heck of it.

For those who are asking what’s in it for them, how about better mileage for their cars? There are numerous tech breakthroughs and innovations that have been suppressed by the control freaks, who simply cannot allow the reality of abundance to emerge for all to see because it will seriously threaten their death grip on the centralized power structure. To quote Chomsky, “who did 9/11? Who cares?” But I’m sure MIT professors at hot fusion lab will care if cold fusion enters the market.

There’s a reason why the average car mpg has regressed over the last hundred years since the invention of the automobile. And it’s artificial, meaning black op.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/newenergyinformation (I take issue with some of Peter Lindemann’s assertions, but that’s another topic.)

Do you think science and technology isn’t under control? Scientific literature is as cooked as Enron. This applies not only to “soft” science such as allopathic medicine, which is basically population control mechanism (pushed by Big Pharma and Hillary) except for traumatic ER medicine, but also to holy of holies, yes, physics. Science is what replaced religion as the greatest source of authority and control. Do you think the control freaks would leave it alone? That’s naiveté at its worst.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/healthinformation (I take issue with their take on HIV, though. I subscribe to the views of Peter Duesberg, Jon Rappoport, Gary Null et al. Check out http://www.nomorefakenews.com/index.php for more info.)

Do you think so-called the second law of thermodynamics is true? Entropy is true only in controlled lab environment, meaning in closed systems. Can you give me an example of closed systems in nature? Some say the planet earth is a closed system. But they ignore small things like the sun, let alone ZPE. Most scientists are as brainwashed as most priests, and can’t tell black from white. It boils down to the same control clause: dogma with a threat of excommunication and ridicule (and possibly jail term or worse) if breached and the reward of research grants and status if followed.

What we need to emphasize, I think, is not just exposing those ugly black ops and psyops, such as false flag ops and health threats like chemtrail, water fluoridation, and bird flu/Tamiflu, that are being covered up or staged, but also all the good stuff that are being suppressed. If enough of us get aware of these wonderful new developments, the current system will become obsolete because people will simply start abandoning it and opting for something much better. This will unleash abundance like never before by breaking the paranoia of scarcity mindset that are being pumped like crazy on a daily basis by media and everything mainstream.

If you think scientific skepticism isn’t manipulated to fit the agenda of the control freaks, let me tell you that nothing is off-limits to those freaks, and that includes skepticism. They try to manipulate anything, any –ism, be it scientific or mystic. I find that when it comes to psy-op, there is no safe zone. Doctors who prescribe highly effective non-FDA approved natural substance go to prison, even though other doctors don’t while killing thousands of patients with ineffective FDA approved toxic junk courtesy of IG Farben. FDA is about as upright as CIA, who works with CDC.

All these black ops, drug, oil, arms, false flag, are all related. And all these cover-ups and suppressions are all related, directly or indirectly, to maintain the status quo and to further accelerate the centralization of control. For example, starvation and depopulation in Africa (so-called the AIDS epidemic) is intertwined with medical murders in America, because they are pushed by the same interests, using the same advertising/propaganda tactics.

This world can become an abundant place, if all known tech are put to use. This fact is viciously suppressed above all else. People have been brainwashed into the false sense of scarcity, and that’s the biggest cover-up of all time. If enough people realize this, the tide will turn.

Personally, I think individual empowerment is crucial in making this happen.

http://www.michaelsharp.org/Ascension-Awakening/Chakra-Kundalini-Meditations/Chakra-Healing-Meditation/

I am aware that there is much nonsense out there, in so-called New Age movement, corrupted or generated by black op (Wells, Huxley, SRI) or pure madness and stupidity. But this one works for me. So I know from my own experience that this isn’t BS. You can break your head open permanently without any help of IG Farben. More energy, more intuition, more clarity, more imagination than I ever thought possible.

Knowledge is here. It’s up to each of us to try and use it or not.

Oh, by the way, I don’t know if Area 51 underground base exists or not, but this question of Vallee about garbage disposal in underground facilities is off the mark. I mean we have technology out there in public, so-called Brown’s gas, which can change the structure/physical properties of elements, for crying out loud. Do you think they, if Area 51 exists at all, will use anything less than the kind of tech that is already out there in the market? Garbage disposal isn’t exactly inter-stellar technology. If Area 51 and interstellar ET Tech R&D;exist at all, then it is highly likely to include some tech that can handle garbage disposal somehow. It’s like questioning the existence of modern tech with a problem coming from pre-industrial tech mindset, like “But how about the horseshit problem?”

^^That wasn’t exactly Vallee’s only question, my friend.

I appreciate the even tone and the relevance of the questions you raised.  Let me try and respond to a few of them.  Is 911 important?  As a rallying point yes, “Remember the Alamo”.  Is it important that anyone is ever prosecuted for it?  No, not so much.  It’s a wonderful dream, but dreams aren’t wishes.  Why then is it important to keep investigating, to keep reading, working, attending, thinking, and speaking about it?

We are now in the teenage years of a new information age.  The Net has given “we the people” an unprecedented glimpse into the collective mind, and hence into reality itself.  Since the dawn of centralized governmental power, reality has been shaped for the citizenry in a highly controlled and increasingly refined manner.  911, as you seem to admit, is a glowing and unmistakable example of this.  The party line isn’t just implausible, it’s impossible.  Was this the Soviet Union, I would say, “par for the course”.  But the US was created as a grand experiment in self governance, and we have been reduced to a society of drooling drones who are content to swallow whatever version of history is presented to us in the prettiest wrapping paper. 

Are you happy with this?  Are any of us happy with this?  If you feel that you are, or could be, then please, please, please, stop thinking about 911.  Return to your regularly scheduled programming.  Get married, buy the biggest house you can’t afford, and have a lot of kids.  But be sure to send them to public school because you’ll want to ensure that they learn to have unquestioning faith in their government.

Speaking personally I could care less if Nike endeavors to convince me that my life will be completely changed if I buy their footwear.  However I care deeply when my elected government in concert with controlled media try to convince me that fantasy is reality.  At the risk of alluding to pop culture, are you Neo, or are you the guy who couldn’t handle the real world and wished only to be reinserted into the Matrix?

Your second point essentially is this; irrespective of whether some of the claims of the 911 Truth Movement are true or not, it can’t be changed so what’s the point?  This sounds a bit like the Serenity Prayer.  In this case though, I think that Jon Voight’s poignant line from “Runaway Train” is a bit more relevant, “You don’t know what you could do or what you can’t.”

We truly have no idea what a fully awakened general populace is capable of.  We’ve seen glimpses of heroic deeds, battles and movements throughout history, but we can’t have any real idea where this one will lead us to unless we continue to follow the path.  The fact that more than 6 years have elapsed is an absolutely inconsequential benchmark.  I’ll make an exception if it happens that you are only 15 years old, in which case 6 years to you feels like a really long time.

If you’re looking for an escape clause or a cutoff point, I’m not sure it’s necessary to establish your own because there is already one lurking in the future that will be outside of our control.  Rest assured the powers that be are already looking for ways to control and regulate the information that is circulated on the Net, and when this happens the Truth Movement will be relegated to the shadows.  We will be just as impotent and incapable of change as the people who first questioned the Magic Bullet theory.  While many will say good riddance, I for one intend to absorb every bit of truth I can before this occurs.

The last major point that you raise which I’ll respond to is the relativist question.  Could 911 possibly be more important than the almost unimaginable poverty and suffering around the globe?  More important, no, more fundamental, yes.  While you are meditating, please meditate on the subject of causality.  Could poverty cause 911?  The government wants us to believe the answer is yes.  They’re still actively trying to convince us that we were attacked because we’re rich, and free.  Do you buy it?  More importantly are you willing to begrudgingly accept it for the sake of expediency and the chance to free your mind and your time from further involvement in this movement?

Now ponder the converse.  Is it possible that mass delusions like the 911 fable lead to poverty?  It led us directly to attack two nations causing the untimely demise of roughly 1 million people, and burning through roughly 1 trillion dollars, the largest portion of which filtered directly into the hands of wealthy industrialists.  The ensuing fear of more 911 attacks has renewed the flow of money into the Military/Industrial Complex.  Subsequent to the fall of the USSR that flow had been on the wane, but traditionally has been roughly 25% of the GDP of the United States, the highest percentage of any nation. 

Am I wrong to believe that this folly either leads to, or enables the perpetuation and worsening of poverty conditions around the globe?  Assuming you are an American, or a citizen of another nation engaged in such conscienceless deception, then this mean that you are also an enabler of this condition.  To quote our war god, “You’re either with us, or you’re against us”.  I leave it to you to decide who “us” is.

Thank you for the reality check, and the opportunity to reaffirm my own convictions.

Here’s the thing.  I largely agree with your sentiments, and perhaps even your conclusions.  But I guess we’ll never know.  Because your potentially well-informed argument comes off sounding like opinionated ill-contrived drivel.  Instead of stating that this article took a long time to research, how about show us the research?  Instead of alluding to facts and making insinuations, you show us your data set?  Why not add, “and 100 thousand die from AIDS every day, and 40 thousand are tortured at guantanamo every second?” These are equally hard to believe, and rightly so.  There’s no accountability.  If I post alongside previous comments saying, “bravo! this needs to be said! huzzah!” I’m not better than the sheep who tune in nightly to FoxNews, and you’re not better than Bill O’Reily.  I support your endeavor, sir, but no one with the power to address the points you’ve brought up here will ever give you a second thought.  You’ve made it impossible for people like me, who want desperately to take you seriously, to do so.  And this makes me sad because instead of jumping on the bandwagon and saying, “You’re really saying something here,” I’m forced to play reality cop and tell you, “All you’re doing is making people who already feel this way yell a little louder.” BE BETTER.

Life is a joke and/or game. When we forget that, we become lost.

I am willing to admit that the only reason I really give/gave a damn about 9/11 is because I love a good mystery. Who doesn’t? I don’t even know if anything exists, though, and by all rights I’m probably supporting the Machine merely by typing these words right now.