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Hey thirtyseven, the historical ufo paintings are basically BS --check out http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO.htm. Anyway i’m with you about the interdimensional communication in dark caves. Oddly, today i went to an article about the acoustic singularities of one cave near my town, which is one with th ebest paintings in the country. Taking a “resonant” model of the mind i think it’s interesting.

Sorry! We were talking about UFOs ... well, one pal of mine said while watching a
renault twingo while in a mushroom trip that “this is the closest the humanity has come to the UFO” ...

I’m not too impressed with the BS claim, having read that material over.  It’s not like those objects were photoshopped into the paintings, they’re making a more subtle distinction than a simple debunking of the claims:

Worst of all, by considering these elements as the representation of something real or really seen by the artist, they assume that the artist, eg. an Italian artist of the ‘400 or an anonymous Byzantine painter, may actually be allowed to insert any non canonical or un-codified element into a religious representation.On the contrary, in past times the commissioners (those who choose the subject and supervised the execution of the art work - in these cases the religious institutions) would have never allowed the author to insert into a work of art anything other than what previously decided, especially in case of religious subjects. In this latter case, in addition, restrictions were even stronger.

...and to that I can only say: Hieronymous Bosch. It’s all food for thought, though.

The best Rigorous Intuition essays on UFOlogy:

Space Cadets—exploring black budget, top secret aerospace weirdness:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/01/space-cadets.html

Grave Mysteries—Crowley, LAM, the secret cipher, DNA...very heavy stuff:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/02/grave-mysteries-part-one_21.html
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/03/grave-mysteries-part-two.html

The Red, White and Gray—UFOlogy in the US and the curious web of connections within it:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/05/red-white-and-gray-part-one_24.html
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/05/red-white-and-gray-part-two_30.html

“I Wish That Hadn’t Happened”—on the militarization of psychic phenomena:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/12/i-wish-that-hadnt-happened_09.html

Sprit of the Beehive—on the buzzing noises associated with UFO encounters and “boundary experiences”
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/12/spirit-of-beehive_04.html

If You Go Out In The Woods—some of the most bizarre outdoor backwoods encounters:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/10/if-you-go-out-in-woods.html

The Colour Out of Space—digging through the Stargate Conspiracy, Egypt, Crowley and the Nine:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/10/colour-out-of-space.html

America’s Dog Star Days—more about Crowley, magick, mind control and UFO history:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/06/americas-dog-star-days.html

Jeff Wells also did the best coverage anywhere of the Prophet Yahweh:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/05/prophet-yahweh-stands-and-delivers.html
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/05/few-good-mind-controlled-men.html
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/06/tale-of-two-prophets.html

yes thirtyseven, but the site links the UFO images to symbolic religious imaginery, not visions of the painter.
Bosch is cool! The last Jeremy Narby’s book has a Bosch’s cover!.
I want to make a question: does anybody knows if Mckenna and Vallee made soemthing together? The more i dig into those two the more i ask me about that hypotetical collaboration.

Yes, and like most “debunkings,” it’s a very mixed bag.  Their take on the most remarkable painting of the collection, for instance, is a bit of a stretch:

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_3.htm

Sadly, there’s no english version of that one.  They appear to be implying that the round, disk-shaped object that’s aiming four beams at the ground is actually an iconic image of a bird.  If so, the bird is about 1/20th of the size it is in the other examples they provide.  Further, they only provide two, and both have many additional details to distinguish them from the object in the baptism painting.

No doubt, a lot of the “UFO art” is a stretch—“hey! that’s round! it’s an alien craft!”—but there’s also some seriously weird evidence that’s much harder to dismiss, and that baptism painting is at the top of the list, for me. 

Just the same, if I can find a more English version of that material, I will definitely link to it in the library.

Mr.Psychoplasm - 09 September 2007 10:11 AM

I want to make a question: does anybody knows if Mckenna and Vallee made soemthing together? The more i dig into those two the more i ask me about that hypotetical collaboration.

They’ve certainly talked to each other, but as for books/articles/joint presentations, no.

Whom is this “The Other” you speak of???

If I could be more precise, I would be.  I’m a lot slower than most folks to slap a label on the unknown, so I tend to speak vaguely instead.  Is it just noise in the system that appears to be a coherent signal?  Is it some sort of emergent global mind/archetypal phenomena?  Is it, as Jacques Vallee suggested in Magonia, the result of half the human race being asleep at any given moment?  Is it an actual extraterrestrial presence, or some other hidden species?  Is it “extra-dimensional,” and more importantly, what the fuck does “extra-dimensional” even mean? Is it future humans visiting (and “adjusting") their past?  Does linear time even exist?  Is our subjective, conscious personality the only “I” in our brains, or are we more like time-share plans with condo bodies? 

That sort of thing.

I also question if it’s bacteria, or parasites like Toxoplasmosis:

http://www.humpjones.com/rear/entry/do_par..._your_sex_life/

And I had to back this up from CC, a response from the elusive Adam Kadmon:

i think that the term “extra dimensional” is an attempt to explain a loosely associated collection of phenomena that are thought to either reside outside of or are qualitatively dissimilar to phenomena that are thought to exist within perceived limits of nominal spacial-temporal dimensions, whereas said phenomena may affect nominal spacial-temporal dimensions; said phenomena are Intrinsically alien in being composed of exotic constituents, but may also consist in whole or in part of common spacial-temporal matter, isomorphic materials that have no direct conventional corollary, as well as common matter arranged in anomalous configurations occurring naturally, under the conscious or unconscious auspices of manipulating entities; wherein Rarifying conditions must prevent such anomalous configurations, exotic materials and subsequent atypical occurrences from occurring with any degree of predictability; measurable or verifiable. all night time and weekend rates apply

i hope that clears things up