Spenzbob—I’ve read that Guenon book but the reason I didn’t answer your question about the connection between proof of contradiction and geometry is that I’ve ALREADY answered it for you—at length. The “Against Archytas” article is based on that issue in detail—but more importantly it’s a BASIC fact of western science. You can find out about it with the Pythagorean Theorem—it’s geometry and it’s based on the proof by contradiction: assume the ratios are rational, prove the contradiction, therefore the ratios are NOT rational. Well this isn’t the only alternative.
Anyway Spenzbob—the reason you’ve asked this question again is the SAME reason you ask why “female formless awareness” is FEMALE. As I’ve explained—if reality is INHERENTLY complementary opposites then the “I-I” of Ramana Maharshi does not resonate as a symmetric axiom: “I Am that I Am” (Brahman, Yahweh, etc.). In other words we listen to the source of the I and the sound resonates as complementary opposites. One plus one does not equal 2. Zero does not exist. The ratio of the Pythagorean theorem does not HAVE to be “not rational” if we consider the logic of complementary opposites. We INFER that this same complementary opposite is the SOURCE of sound. Pythagoras taught this. Taoism teaches it. It’s the teaching of tantra, etc.
When I say “Pythagoras” you immediately want to say Plato—you’re brainwashed. STUCK in the left-brain dominance of mind yoga. You read philosophy. I sit in full-lotus. Again the trick is to practice nonwestern harmonics as body-mind transformation. PRACTICE the small universe as complementary opposites. PRACTICE the tai chi standing exercises.
You’re mind is LAZY. You are not able to focus your mind to LISTEN. You’re AFRAID of the opposite of sound.
As quantum chaos math professor Steve Strogatz says: synchronization is spooky because it happens with inanimate objects as well as life. I’ve corresponded with Strogatz—the math has to be supercomputers to model this stuff—but it happens naturally through complementary opposites.
Spenzbob—that’s hilarious—the response I posted was to a PM from someone at http://thetaobums.com In fact I posted something on that site about a week ago—the site wasn’t loading for a while so it went kind of dormant. Anyway as for other people understanding Archytas—it’s really not necessary yet there are others who have got a pretty good grasp. One person who posts on my blog—Don Guakito—a Brazilian—has an excellent grasp since he discovered me while he was researching math professor Luigi Borzacchini, another person I’ve corresponded with.
The issue at hand is PSYCHOLOGICAL and it has do to with the fact that I was steeped in music for my upbringing. I practiced music intensely and was surrounded by it and then I began investigating the natural overtones in relation to the western scale—the comma of Pythagoras. So my first year of college I wrote a paper on Bartok and the Golden Mean (an early research into geometry and harmonic ratios). My masters thesis linked at http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm relies on quantum chaos but without the understanding that it’s the exact opposite of complementary opposites. So this point was worked out with Andrew Siller, a musician in New England who discovered me at my old blog on http://gnn.tv So Andrew also has a good grasp of the mathematics behind the music ratios and he has since been related with musicians promoting fretless instruments.
Obviously it’s a really esoteric subject and very abstract but more importantly is the fact that modern males rely on the left-brain dominance with the regular activation of the sympathetic nervous system through the male ejaculation—which means that they lack the BRAIN JUICE to figure this shit out. haha.
So it’s really NOT a personal thing about understanding a concept—it’s about PRACTICING MUSIC of the body-mind, through radically embracing the SOURCE of sound, as Evelyn Glennie describes so well. She emphasizes how insulting it is when people challenge her ability to be a musician because she’s deaf. She asks so how do YOU hear? In the ear? Well how in the ear—where in the ear? The fact is science does not have an answer to this either. haha.
Here’s a new meditation study using sound mantras and acupressure of the fingers—that’s been shown to be effective for memory disorders.
Well....so finally Western science is not just relying on “mind yoga” meditation but is actually incorporating the complementary opposite harmonics of the body-mind connection.
And as this excerpt demonstrates—the quantum chaos biophotons, since they are laser-like, DECONVERT the “doubling of the cube” Archtyas logarithm back to the Law of Pythagoras ratio:
Biophoton emission shares an unusual property with coherent (laser) light. It decays in a hyperbolic way, in contrast to the exponential decay of non-coherent light. This implies that biophotons are emitted like a very weak multi-mode laser.[ Some people claim to be able to see this emission as an aura around all living things. It has been reported by mystics over the ages, that at death a flash of light can be seen to leave the body.]
These “coherent excitations” as Frolich (in Ho , 1993)called them, can account for many of the characteristics of living organisms.; long range order, efficient energy transfer and extreme sensitivity to specific signals. Weak signals are received only when the system is in “tune” with them and by collective action amplifies them. Frolich proposed that biological membranes are particularly prone to collective vibrational modes. This could explain the extreme sensitivity to single message; a single receptor binding to a ligand could excite other membrane bound receptors simultaneously as a first step in the amplification of an external signal. The rate of decay of the signal would normally be inversely proportional to the cube route of the radius from the source ( 1/r3). Coherent excitations of a cell decrease this decay to 1/r . Cell activity may therefore become coherent over large areas of the brain or entire body.
drew, do you see yourself slipping into the egomania of being egoless yet?
When I say “Pythagoras” you immediately want to say Plato—you’re brainwashed. STUCK in the left-brain dominance of mind yoga. You read philosophy. I sit in full-lotus. Again the trick is to practice nonwestern harmonics as body-mind transformation. PRACTICE the small universe as complementary opposites. PRACTICE the tai chi standing exercises.
You’re mind is LAZY. You are not able to focus your mind to LISTEN. You’re AFRAID of the opposite of sound.
congrats on finding the One True Path, though, that’s always a good place to be
That’s HILARIOUS—I was just going to email this dude:
about his FAKE Pythagorean mathematics articles. He’s a theosophist so he’s got a whole New Age support group and basically he’s just reiterating the Theosophist work of Professor Ernest McClean with whom I’ve corresponded. Oops—I meant Ernest McClain—and he JUST posted an essay he wrote to address the very issue I had corresponded with him about—less than a year ago.
“THE HARMONIC SERIES AS THE UNVERSIAL SCIENTIFIC CONSTANT.”
What I do is seek out critical comments to CHALLENGE my own views—because what better way to learn? If someone posts about me on other websites without wanting to interact with me directly then I just post a reply on the website saying—why not just ask me directly instead of hiding? haha. Isn’t that what brought me here? You posting my research! And now you want to hide from my research! haha. Too bad so sad. Then I usually get banned from those websites—why? Because again psychologically this stuff is just too radical.
Just consider my above posting to be AN OPEN LETTER. What stupid rule says the fake name has to be someone registered on the website—that’s just AN EXCUSE TO IGNORE THE CONTENT OF THE THREAD AND THEN USE IT AS AN ATTACK TO DISTRACT FROM THE CONTENT OF THE THREAD. Free association is in the constitution. General Discussion.
Form creates the content. It’s better to just ignore the whole conceptual realm and just practice the http://springforestqigong.com Even qigong master Chunyi Lin acknowledged my quest to understand qigong in terms of quantum mechanics.
It’s been fun to say the least and my latest discovery about how biophotons reconvert the Archtyas logarithmic inverse square law back into the Law of Pythagoras has been the final clincher for me on the conceptual realm. It took years of being attacked, banned, censored by tons of people who thought I was in some delusional state. All their questions, criticisms, and demands that I change my subject—just encouraged me to find out the deeper truth of the issue. How could I lose from such an arrangement? haha. I’ve never backed down from a debate yet I’ve been banned from the SEED science blogs, from Tim Boucher’s blog, from Anthony North’s blog, from unexplained-mysteries forum, from dailygrail, Michael Prescott’s blog, and from a couple other websites where I didn’t even register the name of the website! haha.
Oh yeah—Daniel Pinchbeck just ignored the whole sublimation of sex issue as a part of shamanism—better to run away from his OWN website to create some watered down New Age New York-S.F. website (that guess what—promotes the ABOVE fake Pythagorean Theosophist mathematics). Straight up CIA Freemasonry propaganda. Pinchbeck corresponded with me a bit but just enough to make a safe get away from his own website. TOO FUNNY!!
On the other hand I’ve had a steady correspondence with readers in half a dozen countries and they all can converge on my blog http://mothershiplanding.blogspot.com which many of them do.
drew, I think your approach has more to do with the negative responses you get than your actual content.
your content is, in a single adjective, fucking-fascinating. your approach, in a single adjective, is UNACCESSABLE. Even your Mothership Landing book was essentially a collection of the stream-of-consciousness quasi-rant material you’re generally doing any time I see you post.
I get that I don’t get you. I get that most of the people you talk to don’t get you, either...but how much of an effort have you really make to make any of your ideas into an accessable format for people? you assume a truly vast background knowledge, and that’s a major barrier to entry for any casual or even dedicated reader.
Pinchbeck is running a business called Daniel Pinchbeck and he just doesn’t have the time or bandwidth to engage with you. especially when you dismiss him as “CIA Freemasonry propaganda”—seriously, drew. Do you have evidence for that? Does Pinchbeck have CIA connections? Does Pinchbeck have freemason connections? Could it just be that he’s merely wrong—or that he simply disagrees with you?
you seem to have found a new form of fundamentalism, and it’s richly ironic that your “non-duality” has led you to such a polarized and paranoid place, man
you say you’ve never backed down from a debate, but you don’t debate people—you dump data on them, then insult them for not keeping up. oftentimes here on this forum, you’ve given non-answers to specific questions and I’ve lost interest in the discussion because of that.
So what’s the solution, drew? Who do you see as on your level and capable of giving your ideas the depth of criticism they deserve? Who has the knowledge to judge your work and give you useful feedback?
I’ve heard the same excuse from others and the fact is I get a steady dose of PMs from dudes with the “psychic balls” to actually just PRACTICE the philosophy of complementary opposite harmonics. http://springforestqigong.com is the solution. It’s that simple—the small universe practice, the basic standing tai-chi and the full-lotus. As qigong master Chunyi Lin’s teacher stated: The simplest is the most powerful. The full-lotus is the simplest and most direct practice of the complementary opposite harmonics. As for a culture that practiced complementary opposite harmonics successfully—the example is the Bushmen and then later the Pygmies (less so). But the whole computer-psychedelic science scene, of which this website is an example, relies on the psychological denial of the commodity fetish. So information has to be “packaged” in a flashy way without any need for the “consumer” to actually intensify and train his mind. Now as I type there’s this old dude teaching a younger dude about yoga—just a couple tables behind me. When I first walked in I had tagged the younger dude as gay and I’m currently reading that his electromagnetic awareness is stuck in his lower chakras (what Gurdjieff calls between a Number 1 and Number 2 person). His teacher, the old dude, teaches yoga as stretching—which is the mainstream teaching that Pinchbeck HAS debated. So Daniel went into dialog with a female yoga teacher in NYC and the style she teaches does attempt to have a deeper wholistic approach with diet, etc. Still the focus is not yet on the creation of electromagnetic fields. The training to produce electromagnetic fields and then light energy is quite intense and obviously finding someone who can transmit the energy into you makes the training easier. What http://springforestqigong.com teaches is the same as the Bushmen culture which has been destroyed for the most part, so this type of practice is the exact opposite of the trajectory of what I call “tantric technology”—or the commodity fetish created through the destruction of ecology and social justice. Daniel represents this cutting edge of the commodity fetish (which increasingly relies on psychotropic drugs and mind control technolgoy, like the CIA’s remote viewing “hemi-sync” tool) meanwhile in the context of the CIA’s promotion of the alien invasion and the CIA’s assimilation and destruction of traditional land-based cultures. In other words my argument is STRUCTURAL based on what I call the “surplus value of consciousness” but consciousness itself does not change. That’s the most radical concept and reality that even the Bushmen healers were troubled by—it’s what Ramana Maharshi teaches (but again in the context of Brahmin, caste-based left-brain dominance patriarchy). Consciousness is female and it’s beyond spacetime and it doesn’t change—that’s the solution. We can listen to it and resonate with it through complementary opposite harmonics but consciousness itself will always remain “unveiled.”
Now this dude sitting next me to is asking me about my tea tree oil and roobois tea. He’s part of my milieu and with some older dude. But he’s again part of the “metrosexual” scene even though he’s a d.j. for http://kfai.org doing a hardcore techno show. So I told him I listen to Sangam, the hindu show and he knew nothing about it and then psychologically hit his limit. haha.
Why is the sexuality of other men such an important issue for you? You bring it up constantly.
Also, what I’m discussing, drew, is a communication problem—your communication problem.
For you to say that it’s impossible for other people to get, that’s an “excuse.”
So, I practice yoga and I should upgrade to Spring Forest Qi Gong—how will that help me to evaluate drew hempel arguments such as:
Democracy=fascism. Symmetric math=fractals=nanobiomotor mind control. The dude is superficial and hasn’t done real deep research. More technology won’t save problems that occurred from techno-fixes in the first place. Just drink Black Seed Oil (Nigella Sativa) and eat garlic instead while sitting in full-lotus.
Nefertiti is the start of techno-feminism, as explained in my http://mothershiplanding.blogspot.com blogbook or you can read Camille Paglia’s tome “Sexual Personae.” Actually it started with female chimps using spears for hunting so they wouldn’t have to be raped by the males in exchange for meat. So right-hand dominant, left-brain language dominance is a commodity fetish substitute for trance dance healing—or what science calls “macroscopic entanglement.”
Basically, drew: how does Qi Gong give you specific insights about evolutionary anthropology, CIA-freemasonic conspiracies and the motivations of your critics online?
So much of what you write are specific accusations and statements that, near as I can tell, have nothing to do with your Qi Gong practice—yet when I question those, Spring Forest is what you invoke.
Someone just posted a thread based on his PM with me over at http://thetaobums.com—here’s my reply which you should find applicable to your questions if you THINK about it. But I’ll help you along by including a reply I just posted on my blog http://mothershiplanding.blogspot.com to someone’s question about western music.
Qigong master Chunyi Lin states that all you need for the practice is found in his Level 1 teaching. He also states that he could teach another 10 levels beyond his level 4 but in the West no one has reached that ability. He also states that one of his teachers taught the simplest is the most powerful and qigong master Chunyi Lin states that 20 minutes of full-lotus is worth 4 hours of any other exercise.
The question of whether the microcosmic or small universe “forces” the energy because the mind (electromagnetic energy) is used—instead of just relying on the “emptiness” or pure consciousness—is a fascinating question. My answer is that instead of using conceptual philosophy to argue the problems with the small universe, instead I would see it as part of the model of complementary opposite harmonics. My own research discovered that yang is 2:3, the perfect 5th music interval and yin is 3:4, the perfect 4th music interval—from nonwestern music. Music—not left-brain language. The 12 points of the small universe (as detailed in Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality) are actually harmonics nodes of playing music. So when we practice the small universe or any of the other qigong exercises we’re actually playing music and the emptiness is the source of sound as consciousness—which is the foundation of listening to the space between our electromagnetic awareness. The larger context of complementary opposites is that the creation of the electromagnetic mind energy is from sublimation of the sex energy when in fact it’s the electromagnetic energy that is the subconscious reason for attraction between males and females. So the more an alchemist builds up his/her internal male electromagnetic energy the more those other people subconsciously controlled by their electrochemical female energy will want the electromagnetic energy for their own love-healing. This means that the focus of healing in http://springforestqigong.com does not focus necessarily on increasing internal energy as much as it focuses on emptying out the internal electrochemical and even electromagnetic blockages so that the mind-body returns back to pure consciousness as emptiness. The more we heal others the more we heal ourselves because of the harmonic complementary opposite process of emitting electromagnetic energy and in turn taking in the electrochemical blockages of others (anger, fear, sadness, worry, lust). Food is the other main electrochemical blockage after emotions—hence the “bigu” state of qigong masters. Taoist asceticism teaches us that the more we give the more we receive in an impersonal process of energy resonating from the emptiness, without the energy being stored in the body-mind as part of some quest to find permanent immortality in some place (heaven). So this is the SECRET of the final teaching of Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality—even the spirit body of light returns back to the same source from which the original healing started with—what’s called eternal nature in the Taoist Yoga book.
Magitek—I spent the morning in full-lotus trance for an hour listening to Pygmy music—ECHOES OF THE FOREST. I was trained on classical piano with college level orchestration, ear training, etc. The problem is the the rhythm is not syncopated and also that the tuning does not use natural harmonics, thereby cutting off the true purpose of music: the creation of light through transduction of harmonics.
Thanks for asking and of course I’m constantly bombarded with western music as it’s the main means for mind control.
Drew, I’m asking questions you are not answering or even acknowledging:
1. What does the practice of Qi Gong have to do with your specific statements about CIA-freemasonry, female chimps using spears to hunt, etc? Did Qi Gong give you that information? Is Qi Gong necessary to evaluate those statements from you—if so, why?
2. So what’s the solution, drew? Who do you see as on your level and capable of giving your ideas the depth of criticism they deserve? Who has the knowledge to judge your work and give you useful feedback?
3. Why is the sexuality of other men such an important issue for you? You bring it up constantly.
Western civilization is based on a structural form of mind control from the secret connection between music and math and philosophy. In nonwestern philosophy, that last connection to the West being Pythagoras, there was a whole mind-body transformation based on complementary opposites whereby male and female principles were modeled in music as number ratios. This mind-body male-female transformation is the same teaching as qigong which became “qigong fever” when the Taoist philosophers came down from the mountains into mainstream China in the 1980s, e.g. Dr. Yan Xin. The solution again is to PRACTICE the mind-body nonwestern music exercises just like practicing music—but since this mind-body transformation goes against the structural trajectory of the West (again rooted in the secret music-math connection) the solution will be met by increasing repression of the nonwestern mind-body music harmonizers (alchemists). Falun Gong is a perfect example—and this is why Dr. David Palmer’s book “Qigong Fever” argues that qigong acted as a “vanishing meditator” in China, serving both as a mind transformer catalyst to help the Chinese learn to intensify their thinking for Westernization and then afterwards as the example of evil which must be suppressed.
The western clinic xenon 5000 yoga inner breathing techniques from 2000 years beyond in my glass bowl are telling me LOUDLY that I need to think about being thought about on a different plane of existence. I meditate with my eyes open and my nose shut. The lack of air constitutes a deep thought process until I let go and breath the freshest breath of air the my air sacks have ever held onto. Up until the time of barefoot Jesus qigong there was nothing greater than underwater motion hands with dolphins. I pluck my thought between satellites and suns and motion the moon to change the tide while slipping deep into a transparent self moving forward and back twice being stopped by nothing.
For drew’s sake, here’s a good coherent summary of his thesis from a Tao Bums post:
Hi David Rothenberg: Thanks for your awesome new book, WHY BIRDS SING. I have a masters degree (2001) from U of Minnesota with a self-directed project on music and philosophy of science, published as “Epicenters of Justice” and linked at http://nonduality.com/hempel.htm
I finished my degree by studying with a Taoist qigong master named Spring Forest or Chunyi Lin http://springforestqigong.com
Then I hypothesized through my continued research that qigong or yogic chi works via ultrasound as ionization of serotonin, normally stuck in the lower part of the body. The trick is vagus nerve transduction.
The main practice of qigong relies on focusing the mind for listening to 12 nodes along the outside of the body, and thereby creating a harmonic oscillator. This is a sort of nonlinear transformation—using biophotons, quantum chaos, what have you.
It’s strange because now I sit in full-lotus all the time based on the principle that it’s a tetrahedron make up of 8 triangles, each 2-3-4 resonating as 2:3 or yang, the perfect fifth and 3:4 or yin, the perfect fourth. As noted in my masters thesis I discovered that this is the actual principle behind Taoism and originating in the Bushmen and Pgymy trance dance healing.
You might know about “Sonic Bloom” the company of Dan Carlson based on the idea that bird song relies on ultrasonics with the effect that the stomata of plants are resonated, enabling the absorption of nutrients from the morning dew.
This same process then is also the basis for shamanic healing using music but the tuning can not use logarithms since the natural overtones are open, working through complementary opposites. So even the concepts of frequency and amplitude can not apply.
All the best,
drew hempel, MA
I do love you, drew, but I have a hard time taking you seriously.
*monster DMT Hit...hold it...hold it...hold it...* OK I’m Ready
actually drew if you haven’t done full lotus position in a tantric sex embrace with a woman who can use her vocalizations of transquantum harmonic phase shifting dominant pseudo-seventh chords in nonwestern tuning to pull your anal beads out of your ass while you shoot jizz, lube, and a little shit because you didn’t clean your ass good enough all over yourself and her, then play the xylophone music from peru that is the true basis of shintoism, you’re not really grounded enough to evaluate the harmonic resonances of qi gong as they relate to the ecofeminazifreemasonic technoilluminated plot to control your mind with welltempered western mind control music. You see, the idea that lotus position alone, without the anal beads being pulled out your slightly shitty ass by your lovers wailing dominate seventh chord vocalizations, can reveal the underlying quantomusica structure of the universal ecofeminazifreemasonry technoilluminati plot is actually part of the way you were brainwashed. Since forest bullshit qi gong was taught to taoists by wandering tribes of gay giant peruvian pigmys (the real pigmys) as a joke and a conspiracy to control the opposition with misinformation, you are actually acting as an agent of the UFO-CIA-PETA-PTA plot to suppress peruvian xylophonic shinto-shamanism and it’s encoding of the fount of true liberation that springs from irrational ratios in their holy music. It is not 3/4 or 2/3 ratios that matter, that’s mind control too. It’s actually ratios like pi/i or (i*e)/pi that will liberate you as your anal sphincter expands and contracts around the sacred shinto beads in lotus position tantric xylophone sex and your throbbing cock slips out your lover and sprays jizz all over your lotus position body and your ecstatically singing partner. Your form of liberation is actually a control mechanism to protect the real powers that be, in the same way zion was a control mechanism in the matrix movies. If you really want liberation, and not that black hole of a spiritual practice you mistake for liberation, I suggest you start here http://tinyurl.com/9to5yc (NSFW). Notice the ratio between the holey beads is the same as the holy ratios in peruvian shinto-shamanistic xylophone music, which cannot wholly be a coincidence.
hey I think I got the hang of this. this is fun. maybe I should apply for a self directed masters degree.
Alternative thesis: all the mystical experiences you have ever had tell you ONLY about how your brain responds to different sensory inputs.
Did he really call chris king superficial? my head hurts. chris king has one of the only plausible answers to the hard question of consciousness. superficial? grr…
