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DMT and Extraterrestrial Communication

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cute, cuddly, psychic killerToday’s article is overstuffed, I admit it.  There is literally too much going on here, but considering the subject matter, that’s appropriate.  One of the primary resources for this article is Marko Rodruigez’s excellent 2006 paper which outlines a potential method for studying the DMT experience.  This is also a meditation on the challenges and the unknown variables involved in communication with an extraterrestrial intelligence, because for the vast majority of DMT users, this is exactly what they experience

Having wandered into the intersection of neurology, chemistry, physics and the delicate art of tripping your balls off, it should come as no surprise that I wound up with more information, more links and connections, more possibilities and more concepts than I could coherently fit.  Nonetheless, there is going to be something new for just about anyone here—so dig in, and let me know if this was useful in getting your frontal lobes off.

After all, that’s why Brainsturbator is here.

The Usual Suspect

Terrence, we miss youTerrence McKenna, obviously enough, is a patron saint here at the BIPT.  He was exponentially crazier than any mere hippies, as well as more educated and intelligent than his skeptics.  There’s no other place to begin an article on DMT, since McKenna has done more to popularize the drug—for better or worse—than anyone else, living or dead.  Much like fellow omnivorous genius Clifford Pickover, McKenna was drawn to DMT because it’s raw power and cosmically weird implications.

It was McKenna who first clued me in about the existence of “self-transforming machine elves”, or “tykes”—the entities that DMT users come into contact with during their trip.  This is the central mystery of the DMT experience—what are these entities and are they, in any sense, real?

What these creatures want, according to them, is they want us to transform our language somehow, and I don’t know what this means. I mean, at this point in the weekend and in my life, we all are on the cutting edge, and nobody is ahead of anybody else. Clearly we need to transform our language, because our culture is created by our language, and our culture is toxic, murderous, and on a downhill bummer. Somehow we need to transform our language, but is this what they mean? That we’re supposed to condense machines out of the air in front of us?

Clearly, this man is a raving lunatic, the victim of his own drugged-out delusions.  Yet there is a crucial difference between McKenna’s discussion of DMT entities, and, for example, my LSD-infused insight that time actually flows backwards and the vast majority of my “thoughts” are just signals traveling along a hyper-spatial network of all human minds: the DMT entities are verifiable and repeatable phenomena.  As the man himself puts it:

The difference between my rap and, you know, the finned horned folks or somebody like that is that we have an operational method for testing my assertion. We can all smoke DMT, or you can make it your business to now find out about this, and see for yourself. And not everybody agrees with me. I mean, some people say it wasn’t anything like that. But some people agree, and I think if you get two out of ten agreeing with a rap like this, then you’d better pay attention.

As we shall see, 2 out of 10 was a very, very conservative estimate.  That was from a talk McKenna gave in 1992—since then, DMT research has advanced considerably.  The level of consistency in DMT trip experiences is truly startling—but more on that later. 

McKenna’s email correspondence with Robert Hunter is full of hidden gems, and here’s a particularly relevant nugget:

There is in the DMT flash a sense that “this is important, please pay attention, please try harder, please come back again and please try to communicate in the way that we are demonstrating to you”. They may have something very important to say that cannot be said in any language but their own. Hence the ambiguity, the frustration on both sides and the spectacle of human language attempts to say what they are saying turning inevitable into foolishness or gibberish.

My personal favorite writing by McKenna is Ordinary Language, Visible Language and Virtual Reality—a poetic meditation on visual language that concludes with this:

Operationally what these psychedelics do is they dissolve cultural conditioning. Cultural conditioning is like software, but beneath the software is the hardware of brain and organism and by dissolving the cultural conditioning to speak English, German, Swahili or whatever, then one returns to this ur-sprach, this primal language of the animal body and can explore the real dimension of feeling that culture has a tendency to cut us off from.

All mystery is gone, the child learns this is a bird, this is a bird, and by the time we’re five or six years old all the mystery of reality has been carefully tiled over with words. This is a bird, this is a house, this is the sky, and we seal ourselves in within a linguistic shell of disempowered perception, and what the psychedelics do is they burst apart this cultural envelope of confinement and return us really to the legacy and birthright of the organism.

So is DMT “Just” Tripping?

Do people meet alien entities on DMT because they expect to meet alien entities?  It’s not an idle question, it’s grounds for a fun experiment, too.  From the Rodruigez paper:

To validate or falsify this hypothesis, the experimenter should perform a single blind study in which human subjects are used who have never heard of DMT and its extraordinary effects on the human psyche. These subjects are told that DMT inebriation will provide them solely a visual and auditory hallucination. By simply defining the experience as that experienced in front of the veil, the ill-informed subject will have no preconception as to what is possible given the right conditions for entering into the DMT-induced alternate reality. If subjects continually return only to describe the world in font of the veil, then it can be concluded that the DMT experience can be influenced by biasing the subject. In this sense, the hallucination is driven by preconceptions and therefore may be understood solely as an inconsistent subjective hallucination. On the other hand, if the inexperienced human subjects return with testimonies of encounters with alien beings, then DMT is responsible for alien entity experiences. It is noted that this experiment has already been implemented with positive results. Dr. Strassman’s work used unassuming human subjects that did, in fact, return from DMT inebriation with entity experiences (Strassman 2001).

NOTE: Dr. Strassman’s work can be downloaded in it’s entirety in PDF format, courtesy of the Brainsturbator Library:

DMT: The Spirit Molecule, by Dr. Rick Strassman

So remember that this is data, not proof.  As Rodruigez goes on to conjecture:

“The less provocative, and potentially more plausible explanation for entity experiences may be that DMT acts on regions of the brain responsible for representing humanoid forms.”

The “signal chain” of human sensory processing is still in it’s infancy, under constant revision over the past decade.  (Remember, neurogenesis was considered a feminist myth until Elizabeth Gould put in decades of work to prove everyone stupid.)

How is this Different from UFO Abductions?

totally real genuine alien abduction photoWell, you’re not supposed to ask that question.  (After all, UFO abductions are genetic experiments performed by aliens who live in underground bases all around the Earth and signed a treaty with the US government and if you don’t accept that, you will burn in hell for eternity.) But you did ask that question, so let’s take a look.  It’s especially noteworthy, after all, that the entities encountered during a DMT experience as so often—and reflexively—referred to as “alien”.  Is this the result of 50 years of “little green men” and “grey” cultural programming?  Or just a visceral and universal reaction to the critters? 

Dr. Rich Strassman is often asked the same question in interviews, and his general response goes a lil’ something like this:

Q: When I mentioned your study and the many identical descriptions of “alien and clown” beings, my friend surmised that those forms were the result of the hospital environs of your study, and said that a beach at sunset, which is where he imbibed, will produce softer, more lovely beings, like his pixies. What do you think?

Strassman: The aliens and clowns are a universal motif; I don’t think the hospital influenced their form. But, it’s possible the intrusive experimentation type visions were related to the hospital. Nevertheless, there are plenty of such visions in people who’ve been “abducted,” which I believe in some instances may relate to endogenous DMT release. And flying saucers and alien motifs certainly crop up in Ayahuasca sessions in the Amazon, among people with very little exposure to the west; for example, Pablo Amaringo’s images in Ayahuasca Visions, a book he co-authored with Luis Eduardo Luna.

I’ve not conducted tests outside the hospital. But, when I was interviewing people who had smoked DMT, before I began my study, in order to learn more about what to expect, I heard many reports of people encountering all manner of beings. Some of the beings in our studies were frightening, but many were quite beneficent and supportive.

There are, much to the chagrin of “serious” UFOlogists, serious parallels between the DMT experience—where the user never leaves the room—and the UFO abduction experience.  Please note that this does not constitute “debunking” UFO abductions.  There are still a great many documented cases where UFO abductees do leave the room, occasionally disappearing for days at a time.  The unexplained remains unexplained.

That said, though, take a look at this handy visual from the Rodruigez paper:

temporal phases of DMT experience

Now consider this passage from Jacques Vallee‘s masterpiece Revelations, which I promise I will make into a PDF as soon as I’m near a scanner:

British researcher Jenny Randles, in her work with abductees, has stressed that the analysis of the discourse of the abductees consistently reveals a breakpoint in time, after which the percipient leaves normal reality behind. On the “other side” of this boundary, ordinary space-time physics no longer seems to apply and the percipient moves as if within a lucid dream (or indeed a lucid nightmare) until returned to the normal world.  Randles calls this phenomenon the Oz Factor. 

Building on this observation, one could theorize that there exists a remarkable state of psychic functioning that alters the percipient’s vision of physical reality and actually generates traces and luminous phenomena visible to other witnesses in their normal state.

For any reader curious about the probability of extraterrestrial intelligence, I strongly recommend “The Great Silence”, a comprehensive article on the Drake Equation and the variables surrounding the debate.  Most of the writing on this topic is either sneering “skepticism” or credulous pop culture bullshit, so to avoid both pitfalls, start here:

The Great Silence, by David Brin

Before I drift back towards DMT, I would like the reader to consider the fact that actual biological ET entities coming to Earth to visit is the absolute least efficient possible method for interstellar exploration.  Consider this passage from Michio Kaku’s excellent article on “The Physics of Extraterrestrial Civilizations”:

For example, nanotechnology may facilitate the development of Von Neumann probes. As physicist Richard Feynman observed in his seminal essay, “There’s Plenty of Room at the Bottom,” there is nothing in the laws of physics which prevents building armies of molecular-sized machines. At present, scientists have already built atomic-sized curiosities, such as an atomic abacus with Buckyballs and an atomic guitar with strings about 100 atoms across.

Paul Davies speculates that a space-faring civilization could use nanotechnology to build miniature probes to explore the galaxy, perhaps no bigger than your palm. Davies says, “The tiny probes I’m talking about will be so inconspicuous that it’s no surprise that we haven’t come across one. It’s not the sort of thing that you’re going to trip over in your back yard. So if that is the way technology develops, namely, smaller, faster, cheaper and if other civilizations have gone this route, then we could be surrounded by surveillance devices.”

When you consider this line of thought in conjunction with the recent work of Ray Kurzweil on the looming “Singularity”—a topic we’ll be addressing shortly, since it’s the only argument for God existing I could even consider—then a great deal of the seriously anomalous phenomena Jacques Vallee discusses takes on a whole new light.  I will leave any further conclusions in your lap for now, it’s time to move on.

Mark Pesce and VRML

Mark PesceLet’s get the jargon outta the way: VRML is Virtual Reality Markup Language.  Just like HTML is Hyper Text Markup Language—it’s a programming code for the internet, basically a three dimensional world wide web.  You can already see where this connects to the topic at hand, and it will come as little surprise that Mark Pesce, the creator and evangelist of VRML, is a big fan of DMT.

It was Mark Pesce that I quoted way back at the dawn of Brainsturbator, in the “Levels of Scale” post, where he explained the Perceptual Cybernetics model of reality.  To this day, it remains the most useful model I’ve ever found, so it bears repeating here.

Further Reading for Curious Primates:

Pesce has written some really excellent articles, and these two are the very best.  They will improve your day and your subsequent life.

Eye and Thou: Dissolving Descartes

Bios & Logos

Back to Rodruigez and Experi-Mental Testing

Rodruigez proposes an experiment to test an external reality: give the aliens a math problem that the tripping human could not solve.  He specifically suggests the factorization of a large prime number.  To anyone reading this who has actually experienced a DMT trip—or even a good stiff dose of the analog compound Salvia Divinorum—might have their eyebrows embedded in their forehead right now.  The notion of remembering a math problem, let alone communicating the problem to the alien critters and then remembering their answer, only makes sense to somebody who’s never experienced this. 

Perhaps I’m wrong about that.  After all, Terrence McKenna said that after repeated experiences he started to get some equilibrium.  Friends of mine who have done waaaaaay more DMT than I’d want to also claim to even have “friends” and “guides”—recurring characters on the Other Side. 

Of course, Rodruigez is an experienced Adept himself, and he proposes something more subtle:

To validate a persistent reality (i.e. a stable co-existing reality), it is important that the inebriated human subject not return with the prime factors. Instead, the human subject asks the beings to not repeat the answer and to provide the answer when the human subject returns to the alternate reality. Therefore, this test for persistence requires at least two sequential DMT administrations to the same human subject. The first inebriation provides the DMT beings a large non-prime number to factorize. The second inebriation requires the human subject to retrieve the factor solutions.

Again, for anyone seriously interested in this topic, the Rodruigez paper is a vital read.  There’s a lot more I could have gotten into, so I guess that means I’m gonna spend the rest of the week working through this grey zone.  In the meantime, this is way past deadline and my eyeballs are bleeding.  If anyone reading this is aware of undergoing or recent research on DMT, please let me know at wombaticusrex@gmail.com. Even if you’re reading this a full year after the article was posted—hit me up, mammal.  Hit me up.

The Real Question: Where Do I Get Some?

Ohhh, man, you’re gonna hate me for this, but....odds are, you don’t.  Statistically, you’ll never even see this stuff once, from cradle to grave.  Perhaps a sudden spike in demand will change that—or perhaps I’ll get a degree in organic chemistry.  But barring either of those options, DMT is an exceedingly rare drug.

And that’s not all.  Believe it or not, you already have it.  Right now—you, like all other human beings, have trace amounts of DMT contained in your pineal gland. Is that completely motherf***ing insane or what? It’s ILLEGAL, and it’s IN YOU RIGHT NOW.

You are all under arrest.

30 responses to "DMT and Extraterrestrial Communication"

  • avatar

    Jan 09, 2007 at 2:53 AM
    David Z
    says...

    I’m saving your column, thanks.

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    Jan 09, 2007 at 2:55 AM
    Adam
    says...

    Last night my friend and I packed up a bowl and sat down for a toke, but before our lips could touch the glass our minds were turned inwards and we suddenly started conversing about the nature of consciousness and time, the lives of the past echoing in our minds. At one point he uttered forth,"This is all you. You’re sitting in this room that you’ve made up, next to yourself, listening to yourself tell you these things” and an electric flame burst. The conversation then turned to the pineal gland and the existence of dream and otherside entities based on our various encounters with them. Various, simultaneously confusing and enlightening. Two hours later we sacrificed the herb to our lighters.

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    Jan 09, 2007 at 3:07 AM
    Neurokraft
    says...

    Yeah, you could get a degree in organic chemistry. Or you could just follow a step-by-step pictorial guide to extracting “elf-spice”. Something like this perhaps: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml. Or this one, without all the purty pics: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_chemistry1.shtml.

    P.S. For those who worry about silly things like tumors and such, substituting petroleum ether for naptha might result in a healthier end product. If you can get your hands on it.

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    Jan 09, 2007 at 3:36 AM
    Neurokraft
    says...

    Plus, the ingredients for the DMT/MAOI synergistic Ayahuasca brew are readily orderable online. Or for psychonauts/alien-abductee-wannabees who want to feel closer to the source and have some guidance and context, there are quite a few options for “Entheogenic Tours” to Peru or other points south. However, those considering such an expedition might want to read this first: http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v12n2/12236stu.html.

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    Jan 09, 2007 at 3:40 AM
    Thirtyseven
    says...

    ^^THANK YOU

    It’s a beautiful thing seeing a mediocre article get excellent info in the comments.

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    Jan 09, 2007 at 4:28 AM
    Klintron
    says...

    Here is some slightly more obscure DMT research: http://deoxy.org/annex/daytripr.htm

    Oh, and re: Persinger, it seems other researchers have not been able to reproduce his results:

    http://www.discover.com/issues/dec-06/features/god-experiments/?page=1

    (That Discover article, titled “The God Experiments,” is quite good BTW.  It has a section on Straussmen).

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    Jan 09, 2007 at 9:54 AM
    Miqel
    says...

    I sifted a few dozen pages of DMT Contact accounts into the most lucid examples and put them on this page.
    http://miqel.com/entheogens/dmt_entity_contact_experience.html

    (the link on my name above also goes to the same page)

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    Jan 09, 2007 at 10:03 AM
    supes
    says...

    theres a couple of books out by alexander and ann shulgin that show the prevalence of DMT and other tryptamines in nature.

    http://www.mdma.net/alexander-shulgin/pihkal-tihkal.html

    its also available through erowid.

    http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal.shtml

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    Jan 09, 2007 at 12:54 PM
    Justin
    says...

    Great article.  Upon reading “bios and logos” by Pesce I couldn’t help but think of the Oracle and Architect from the Matrix series.  Both of them were responsible for the construction of the Matrix world and from my interpretation Pesce seems to be saying that both the bios and logos are constructing this world, although the logos seems to be in a more dominant position.  This domination of the logos would coincide well with Ian Lungold’s interpretation of the Mayan calendar wherein he divides the nine underworlds into “herstory” and “history”, which we are in now.  Perhaps what is coming in 2012 is a merging of the two, which will birth something completely new.  The two distinct spheres producing a gateway toward liberation (vesica pisces).  Anyway, again great post, I’m done.

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    Jan 09, 2007 at 7:57 PM
    RMC
    says...

    Glad to see people still working this vein now that Terence McKenna is nearly 7 years gone. Great Post. Very interested in this Rodruigez challenge. Kudos to Brainsturbator and the free texts in particular-- I had been able to find Liber Null anywhere over here.

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    Jan 10, 2007 at 1:04 AM
    Commenting under anonymous Identity
    says...

    I’m going to stand out as the “raving hippie lunatic” of all the other comments, but I have something to get off my chest: The last time I ingested psilocybin I went in and out of many altered states of varying degrees of intenstity. Upon “waking up” from the final and most potent, most fully real alternate reality, I had a message. It was almost word for word, “this is important, please pay attention, please try harder, please come back again and please try to communicate in the way that we are demonstrating to you”. I was so overtaken by the emotion of this message, I quickly began scribbling down the words and diagrams of the visions I had seen. I don’t remember visualizing any “others”, but the words came to me from somewhere else. I never saw them but there were a group of individuals pleading from somewhere inside me or outside of me. The feeling was so intense it marked me forever. After the trip wore off, I rationalized it as “parts of my subconscious that desire to be released”. I have been too self-conscious to bring this experience forward to anyone yet, but I almost jumped out of my seat when I read that section of your Brainsturbator article. I don’t know what to do, but ... There is something to do. Now I will analyze language.

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    Jan 10, 2007 at 10:19 AM
    Alex
    says...

    “Many salvia [divinorum] users, during high-dose out-of-body experiences, may suddenly merge with objects. With the significant time distortion typical of salvia, users may live a lifetime as another person, or as an inanimate object, such as a wall or a piece of furniture. The experiences can be extremely pleasant, or very frightening and confusing.”
    - http://www.smoke-nut.com/dictionary/salvia-divinorum/

    I find it fascinating how supposedly “random neuron firings” can bring such coherent and similar trips to many different people on the same substance.

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    Jan 10, 2007 at 12:07 PM
    Tom
    says...

    Oh, i’ve got some research, maan!
    One of my best friends moved out to Arizona (from MI), went on a 3-4 day meth binge triggering paranoid schizophrenia. It was BAD, hospital visits, 4 voices in his head telling him he’s just a loser drug dealer etc. Took a while of talking to him to get him to humor it, ask one of the girls out on a date etc. 
    Well.. ONE HIT.. of DMT.. CURED his Schizophrenia.

    Not only that, but other schizo’s have come forward, saying that and more.  The entire GIANT thread is right here,

    http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=218481

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    Jan 10, 2007 at 12:17 PM
    Tom
    says...

    Oh, relating to supes and RMC’s posts.. 2012, DMT, Mayan Calendar (and the Egyptian’s.. hieroclyphics - seen any of that on DMT wink, my website (forum on there too, i still have to Update the links i have a TON more),

    http://www.WhatTheHellisUp.com

    Shit, the Elf dudes are calling me to gather these links together ASAP.. will post them all in the forum, DMT and 2012, uhh.. a lot of interesting shit, basically.

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    Jan 10, 2007 at 2:09 PM
    mike hagan
    says...

    great piece...thanks for the effort…

    not to be nit-picky, but terence is spelled with only one ‘r’…

    thanks again…

    o)<

    mike

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    Jan 10, 2007 at 2:47 PM
    mike hagan
    says...

    here’s a link to an interview i did with dr. rick back in ‘04…
    <url>http://www.mikehagan.com/2012/mp3/032805_RICK_STRASSMAN.mp3</url>

    o)<

    mike

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    Jan 10, 2007 at 4:05 PM
    thirtyseven
    says...

    ^^If I could afford an editor, I’d get one.

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    Jan 13, 2007 at 12:35 AM
    LJ
    says...

    This is really incredible. I’m glad I’m not crazy- there’s other people speaking my ‘language’, I’m not losing my mind after all.

    This is an incredible discovery and I hope that DMT becomes more widely available (perhaps legal?) :/

    How much longer do you think it will take the “rationalist” society of today to realise that we are part of a multi dimensional universe?

    Things just keep getting worse and worse it seems.

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    Jan 13, 2007 at 11:45 AM
    William James
    says...

    I thought these links might add some interesting dialog to the discussion. There are dozens of audio lectures by Terence McKenna Here and you can use this custom search engine which is focused on mind expanding content to find even more articles on DMT and other paradigm shifting subject matter:

    MindSearch

    For your convenience, it searches this site too!

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    Jan 16, 2007 at 3:28 AM
    Miqel
    says...

    Let’s not forget that just THIS YEAR the (supposedly conservative) Supreme Court ruled in FAVOR of the UDV Ayahuasca (DMT) group beng able to import Steel Drums full of Ayahuasca from the amazon!!!  (Wow, an actual rational and culturally considerate decision from the Supreme Court? Thanks GOD)

    The ruling said the feds were wrong to raid the church, it was ok under religious purposes for this particular church, it was part of an ancient tradition predating our system, that the Federal government didn’t prove any evidence of harmful effects, and that it was no different than allowing Peyote rituals for the native americans.

    This was a MAJOR VICTORY for the liberation of consciousness ... implications still being worked out - Can non native south-americans (crackers like me) join the church? If not ... then what is the legal justification for banning someone from a religion?

    Here is the 2006 Ayahuasca (DMT brew) court case and findings as summarized at Erowid
    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca_law22.shtml

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    Jan 21, 2007 at 11:28 AM
    add-um
    says...

    oh yeah, when i ordered 5-meo-dmt of a site, a couple of years ago. i read strassmans book then i really wannnted to try this stuff,being a big fan of lsd,shrooms, and aliens. i got the stuff in the mail opened it, sat in my bed and took two big hits of the crystals, i was blasted into hyperspace i look at my rug on the floor and it started curling up and back like a party favor. i stood up after that and i looked in the mirror then heard a voice say “ the more u learn the quicker you leave” and some other stuff i cant remember what they said.  like some blue green jackie chan

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    Jan 21, 2007 at 11:43 AM
    add-um
    says...

    also i had a trip on musgroom chocolates, everytime i closed my eyes i see geometical shapes and symbols, then it transformed into visions of i guess what was the future, it did’nt look good, lots of war and mushroom clouds. but it seemed like it was being sent to me from somewhere else, i think mankind is doomed

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    Feb 01, 2007 at 11:19 PM
    Mort
    says...

    Heres a bunch more DMT Info and files , enjoy lads !!!!!

    http://www.blackclover.com.au/
    http://dmt-nexus.com/webackup/files.htm

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    Feb 04, 2007 at 12:48 AM
    Sage
    says...

    Since DMT is naturally in your brain it makes me wonder if the communication with “multidimensional beings” by meditating on your 3rd eye is a valid experience. I wouldn’t doubt it...actually I fully believe in it. I’ve experienced some tripped out stuff.

    For as much as we know, we know nothing...especially about ourselves.

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    Feb 19, 2007 at 9:39 AM
    Phil
    says...

    Leaving any ethical issues aside - how would [could?] an autistic person characterise a DMT experience? Just thinking about this re: autism and the lack of a ‘theory of mind’

    p

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    Feb 20, 2007 at 11:40 AM
    Tom
    says...

    Actually hehe, it ain’t too hard *AT ALL* *wink** and Very Cheap, to extract DMT from mimosa root bark (..cheap.. 6-10+ grams per kg, kg typically $100-140), check it, yo’…

    http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=18449

    This forum is full of people who extract DMT weekly, where to get Mimosa Root Bark?,

    http://researchbotanicals.com - good and cheap

    http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/mimosa-hostilis-jurema-p-289.html

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    Feb 21, 2007 at 4:01 AM
    Brian
    says...

    http://forum.zipperfish.com/archive/index.php/t-1594.html

    Interesting post skeptical of the entity theory.

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    Feb 22, 2007 at 5:01 PM
    Sparkie Arbuckle
    says...

    yo sturbator.
    DMT ain’t that rare, but at its price, people who can afford it are. i’ve done it before and i didn’t see any aliens… or maybe i didn’t know i was seeing aliens… hmmmmmm. if those were aliens, vive les martians! it definately was fun as shit though, and i strongly endorse its widespread use, if that is ever plausible.

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    Feb 23, 2007 at 9:56 AM
    Mariusz
    says...

    A very interesting article. In this context, I recommend a book by Graham Hancock - “Supernatural” in which he analyzes the role of psychedelic agents (DMT among them) in the development of mankind and communication with supernatural entities. He also analyzes Strassman’s research in detail. And I am with Strassman here that many of the alleged UFO abductee phenomena or encounters with UFOs could be ‘internal trips’ (which would to some extent explain the lack of physical evidence vs. a huge volume of abductee reports) as a result of spontaneous release of DMT. Many DMT users (myself being one of them) claim that “the reality of the drug experience was more real than real”, thus people who were exposed - voluntarily or involuntarily - to sudden DMT hit would definitely treat the DMT reality as pretty solid. The experience seems to be quite universal and I definitely believe it cannot be a mere product of our brains acting crazy under influence of some chemicals. On the contrary. Maybe DMT just tunes our receptive organs to the appropriate wavelength of a parallel/other dimension inhabitted by supernatural entities?  Or entities who installed DNA on Earth billions of years ago? Who knows smile Just a thought.

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    Dec 28, 2007 at 6:54 AM
    Nascakiyetl
    says...

    Back in 99 i had the opportunity to smoke some DMT that was supposedly from the same batch Terrance used in his research. From what i was told only an ounce ever made it into circulation outside of his circle. I have no way to verify the authenticity of this.
    I will share some of the experience, In no way do i feel i made contact with aliens or that a sketchy van rolled up and i was given cybernetic implants.

    First off the smell of this substance caused a serious case of Deja Vu which sort of scared the shit out of me. I know this, what the fuck is that smell? very unsettling. It is not something you can smoke yourself. someone must hold the apparatus and light it for you. Within the first 3 seconds i began to peak and loose my vision. I was thrown backwards on a roller coaster deeper and deeper, it got to the point where i felt as if i was dying. everything went black and the faster i fell the more my body was consumed by a very intense numbing sensation followed by the sound of burning and crinkled plastic ( this is a very common DMT experience) Everything stopped and went silent.
    And then I felt as if i was hit by a truck, My head felt as if it was ripped open and i felt as if i was looking through a lense that was shatterd into a billion pieces, I cant even explain what it was. it hurt to look at. there were so many images spiraling in this thing, the slightest movement changed every window to a new pattern.  My friend recalls me saying during all of this. Wow! wow. I broke it. I fucking broke it WOW!  tongue laugh
    What i remember most is my fear, I could not grasp time. I could not feel third dimensional time space. I feel this is the most important lesson one can learn from this substance. How many people can actually feel timelessness in there lifetime’s aside from the moment of death?

    To this day i still get that Deja Vu feeling and I enter that place where there is no time. I have learned to embrace it and not be afraid of it.

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